That was very nice Viviana. I had posted the full first eppisode of the 24/7 using Carlos's account but I think its not working so I will delete that and re-post.
Link to 24/7 on the forum: http://roundtable.lefora.com/2009/10/26/cotto-vs-pacquiao-247/
oh my goodness- he looks like hes in amazing shape!!!!!!
Cotto Trainer Santiago's Point: The Fighters Will Do The Fighting
By Rick Folstad
Joe Santiago looks like a guy who might sell you insurance or do your taxes or fix your car.
There are no serious scars on his face or wrinkles under his eyes, and he doesn’t have one of those crooked, telltale noses that says he’s been in a few ring wars. His fingers are all pretty straight, and if you passed him on the street, you wouldn’t look at him twice.
He looks young and educated, someone you might meet at a stockholders meeting.
So how did this guy become head trainer of one of the best fighters in the world? Aren’t trainers suppose to look like Mick from the Rocky movies? You know, the gravelly voice, the cauliflower ear, maybe a stogie stuck in the corner of his mouth. A real trainer should be older than dirt and he should wear tired shoes and a watch cap. He should be someone who could tell you how he almost won the middleweight title back in 1959, but he got cut in the 13th round when he was fighting Kid Savage at The Garden, but damn, he was so close. If they just could have stopped the cut from bleeding.
That’s not Joe Santiago.
Bet a few eyebrows popped up when he suddenly took over the responsibility of getting Cotto ready to fight Joshua Clottey this past June. Wasn’t Santiago a nutritionist or something? So how did he get this job?
Well, he pretty much inherited it.
When Cotto’s uncle/trainer, Evangelista Cotto threw a cinder block through the car window of Cotto’s new Jaguar after the two had an argument and threw a few punches back in Puerto Rico earlier this year, their relationship became a little strained. The uncle was let go, camp was moved to Tampa and Santiago was handed the franchise.
Santiago passed his first test when Cotto beat Clottey despite a bad cut he suffered in the early rounds. But there were some problems in the corner that night.
“Sometimes in the corner we were a little late getting in and getting out and being where we should be between rounds,“ Santiago said on a recent conference call. “We had different people going in there and at times, it was difficult to work.“
With the biggest fight in Cotto’s life just up ahead, they need to smooth out those rough edges.
The franchise will earn about $10 million on Nov. 14 when Cotto (34-1, 27 KOs) defends his WBO welterweight title against Manny Pacquiao (49-3-2, 37 KOs) at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, though the fight should carry an asterisk since Pacquiao’s corner demanded they fight at a catch weight of 145 pounds instead of the welterweight limit of 147 pounds.
But Cotto and his camp don’t seem too concerned about the catch weight. Cotto weighed 146 for his last fight, that gutsy win over Joshua Clottey.
So what about Santiago. Is he in over his head?
“I have known (Cotto) for seven years and I know they talked about bringing in well-known trainers,” Santiago said from their training camp back at the Fight Factory in Tampa where they trained for the Clottey fight. “But I think the fact that I have known him for a long time and he feels comfortable with me gave me an advantage over all those guys. I think it‘s a question of getting everybody on the right page and I think we’ve done that.“
While Santiago is still learning his way around as a head trainer, Pacquiao will be sitting in his corner listening to Freddie Roach, one of the most respected trainers in the game. But Santiago said he doesn’t feel intimidated.
“I have a lot of respect for what Freddie Roach has done, but it has nothing to do with us,“ Santiago said. "It’s the fighters that are going to do the fighting. They have their work to do and we have our work to do. As long as our guy wins, we are going to get recognized for it.”
Promoter Bob Arum, who promotes both Pacquiao and Cotto, said Roach, who has talked about a first-round knockout, is a great trainer, but he’s also a great psychologist.
“A lot of what Freddie says is to get in camp Cotto’s head,“ Arum said on the same conference call. “There is nothing wrong with that. That’s boxing. The fight could go a lot of different ways, and that’s why it’s going to be a great fight.“
Any predictions from Cotto’s camp?
“On the 15th, we will be at 145 pounds, no question,” Santiago said. “On the 14th, it’s going to be a great night. And on the 15th, we are going to celebrate with the country of Puerto Rico.”
steroids make your head get bigger...Pacquiao has a big fucking head
Good vid...today is his last day in Tampa.
in that second video it kinda looks like cotto kinda hurt his hand a bit... pacquiao, ur grave is digged allready, and cotto is gonna put u in your coffin
By Manuel Perez:
I can already see the excuses flowing in from Manny Pacquiao and his
loyal trainer Freddie Roach after November 14th. I’d like for it to be
some straight honest excuses where Pacquiao and Roach admit that they
fought a superior fighter with better talent, power and ability than
him. But what I expect will be some lame excuses along the lines of ‘I
wasn’t feeling good in training camp, I hurt my shoulder or I couldn’t
see because of the cut.’ I doubt that Pacquiao will fire Roach after Cotto fight, at least I hope he doesn’t. But I still see Pacquiao making with the excuses for the loss. It’s so sad. I hope Pacquiao doesn’t resort to this. I don’t want to lose respect for the man and I think I would if Pacquiao starts blabbering left and right with every excuse under the son to explain away his loss. I can just see him going motor mouth while being interviewed.
It will be a terrible sight if he does this. Just accept the loss, Pacquiao, and take your defeat with dignity. I’m okay with the “It just wasn’t my night” excuses, but I can’t stomach when fighters start crying about injuries, poor training camps or other things that took place during the fight. If Pacquiao can’t beat Cotto in the ring, the last thing I want to hear is a bunch of lame excuses.
A loss to Cotto won’t be such a bad thing. At least Pacquiao know where he’s at in terms of talent. It’s better to know how good you are in reality rather than having a mental image in your head that isn’t true. Once Cotton finishes beating the tar out of Pacquiao, his self image will be adjusted to the point where he has a more accurate picture of his true ability – I hope.
If Pacquiao starts with the excuses then that tells me that he hasn’t accepted the loss and is looking for a scapegoat for target to put the blame on. There’s nothing wrong with losing. Pacquiao shouldn’t worry about it when it happens. It’s part of the game and every fighter has to accept it and not try to explain it away with excuses.
October 31, 2009Pacquiao vs. Cotto: What Will Manny’s Excuse be When he Loses?[image]By Manuel Perez:I can already see the excuses flowing in from Manny Pacquiao and hisloyal trainer Freddie Roach after November 14th. I’d like for it to besome straight honest excuses where Pacquiao and Roach admit that theyfought a superior fighter with better talent, power and ability thanhim. But what I expect will be some lame excuses along the lines of ‘Iwasn’t feeling good in training camp, I hurt my shoulder or I couldn’tsee because of the cut.’
google_protectAndRun("ads_core.google_render_ad", google_handleError, google_render_ad);I really hope that Pacquiao takes his loss like a man and doesn’tcome up with the excuses after the fact but I just don’t see ithappening that way. A whole bunch of people who don’t know what they’retalking about are predicting that Pacquiao is going to beat Cotto onNovember 14th. I’m really laughing at them because I haven’t seen somany wrong people in all my life. This is going to be really nice to see Pacquiao eating a big plateof humble pie. I hope he swallows all of it because I don’t want himwith any false hopes about the loss. There’s one thing that fightersneed to accept is responsibility for their losses. The worse thing theycan do is start coming up with the excuses after the fact. A tell talesign of a fighter not accepting their defeat is when they start withthe excuses and want to fire their trainer.
I doubt that Pacquiao will fire Roach after Cotto fight, at least Ihope he doesn’t. But I still see Pacquiao making with the excuses forthe loss. It’s so sad. I hope Pacquiao doesn’t resort to this. I don’twant to lose respect for the man and I think I would if Pacquiao startsblabbering left and right with every excuse under the son to explainaway his loss. I can just see him going motor mouth while beinginterviewed.
It will be a terrible sight if he does this. Just accept the loss,Pacquiao, and take your defeat with dignity. I’m okay with the “It justwasn’t my night” excuses, but I can’t stomach when fighters startcrying about injuries, poor training camps or other things that tookplace during the fight. If Pacquiao can’t beat Cotto in the ring, thelast thing I want to hear is a bunch of lame excuses.
A loss to Cotto won’t be such a bad thing. At least Pacquiao knowwhere he’s at in terms of talent. It’s better to know how good you arein reality rather than having a mental image in your head that isn’ttrue. Once Cotton finishes beating the tar out of Pacquiao, his selfimage will be adjusted to the point where he has a more accuratepicture of his true ability – I hope.
If Pacquiao starts with the excuses then that tells me that hehasn’t accepted the loss and is looking for a scapegoat for target toput the blame on. There’s nothing wrong with losing. Pacquiao shouldn’tworry about it when it happens. It’s part of the game and every fighterhas to accept it and not try to explain it away with excuses.
-viv
I can only imagine all the crap this guys is getting from the Pacfans...haha
Great Cotto interview done yesterday:
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-borix7
good vid. does he say "everytime i piss" at 3:40 lol???
wow hes actually very good LOL But i bet he thinks hes so bad ass. Didnt he make his own record?
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